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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 04:15 PM
It has been confirmed, Disgaea 3



http://ir.nikkei.co.jp/irftp/data/tdnr1/home/oracle/140/2007/2711045/27110450.pdf

Sources also say the PS3. There maybe a PSP port also.

For a system with high end graphics, it seems like it's good the NIS kept the 2D sprites. However, would anyone shell out the money for the PS3?

Perhapes the PS3 will go down in price in the mean time?

Is it me or does one of the characters looks like Solar Boy Djnago?

Will we have Laharl and the Poster Trio slapped again in Disgaea 3?

Try to keep this thread in topic, okay? Don't go off in topic in five posts about so and so, whatever.


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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 04:53 PM


I sure hope that the guy that stands on the desk is NOT the main character. Why do they have to change character all the time, it is not cool then they have so many great characters already.



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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 05:23 PM


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I sure hope that the guy that stands on the desk is NOT the main character. Why do they have to change character all the time, it is not cool then they have so many great characters already.


God forbid, people bitched about Adel being the main character also. People don't like change I guess. "ZOMG BRING BACK LAHARL! HE WUZ BETTA DEN ADEL THE TWAT!" Shaaa....

Even if he looks like Grey from Rockman ZX Advent, I kinda like seeing a differnt main character then seeing Laharl. I will admit something. I do not like Laharl as a character at all. I don't like overly powered characters with arrogant attitudes, but that's just me.

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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 05:41 PM


Sadly,I think that is the new character...

But I am not liking his design.He's wearing a red cape...only Laharl got away with that,but it was more a scarf/cape so that made it cooler.Now it looks like he is a wanna-be "super-hero" or something.

From what I can tell,its kind of like KH in a way....Sora was the main character,then technically it was Roxas at the beginning,but then it went back to Sora later on,now the third one wont have either.

So its understandable when a sequel does this.

Oh and he's wearing white shorts... >>; What the hell? White shorts is just...not the best to wear.




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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 05:48 PM


White shorts get blood stains and other stains. Look at Akutare's white coat. You'd think it get all stained and dirty.



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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 05:50 PM


I know...rofl. For how many times he's been kicked around,those grass stains stay there permantely xD

Also that pink haired girl in that image...she Almost looks like Hanako,its the way her hair is pinned up.But I could be wrong,the rest of the outfit is telling me something else.




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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 06:04 PM


Either that, NIS is just lazy. The pink haired girl has horns it seems, where Hanoko had wings. However, if I heard one person say.. "OMG BRING LAHARL BACK!" I will not be one friendly Puku.

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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 06:17 PM


Is it bad for me not to like Laharl?



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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 07:26 PM


I translated the PDF
http://community.livejournal.com/cyberdance/820.html?mode=reply

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[*] posted on 17-7-2007 at 07:49 PM


Thanks for the translation,Mari.

Also joystiq announced it too:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/17/disgaea-3-announced-for-playstation-3/




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 12:32 AM


Ok this is somekind of Demon school so that understanding i got when i watched those screens. Mainchar not improve me he look like that early Haradas sceth for Laharl, but only white hair and those white shorts.......

Anyway warriors sprite havent improved at all and well the pluss is that they bringed back ronin girls "Wich look exacly same as in disgaea". Anyway im not probably get this, because i will not buy PS3 so thats that XD




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 12:54 AM


I have no comment on the actual game itself, since we know next to nothing about it. However, I will say this would had been better off on the PSP or PS2 given those graphics should be seen as offensive to those who buy a PS3 to play this title. Because regardless of how you look at it, those 2D sprites and 3D backgrounds are awful looking for a PS3 title.



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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 01:25 AM


It does, I'm actually really upset if this is going to really be Disgaea 3. They don't even upgrade the sprites for the Warriors?



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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 01:31 AM


I own a PS3...but I highly doubt I would buy this one.

Doesnt really impress me enough,especially since the graphics look the same..I understand,keeping the sprites the same...but atleast...put some more effort into it >>;

Y'know...before I even say anything about the graphics,I think I will wait until we see more final footage.I forget its in the early stages...but when you see graphics like Odin's Sphere...just kind of get used to seeing something,A lot better or as good as OS.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 01:46 AM


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They don't even upgrade the sprites for the Warriors?

I like to call their reusing of sprites the "Capcom Effect." Because they too, seem to think it fine to reuse them in a new title, even if that title is kind of old.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 01:58 AM


Why are they even moving on to the PS3 with even EARLY screen shots that look like that? I'm sorry, but they can't survive on the PS3 if they don't step it up, beyond every game they've made, beyond OS levels, beyond all of that. As it sits right now, they're going to be making down-loadable games and nothing more, at least if they actually want to turn a profit and stay in business.

The industry is the point right now where if you don't make use of the hardware, you're through. This would be why Capcom is making the high res, hand drawn Street Fighter with the Udon crew. Because THEY know they can't keep selling the same old graphics anymore, and they have a far larger and more hardcore fanbase than N1 does.

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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 02:03 AM


No kidding....
PS3 is just not the right decision to use those kind of graphics,PS3 is meant for higher,more clear,over the top 3-D graphics,as you stated,Groove when using the hardware to its full potiental.

As I've told Aku earlier..I really Dont see it going on the Wii either.Xbox is pretty much rivaling with the PS3 graphics wise.The reason I dont see it on the Wii,as Aku said as well,its more for interactive purposes....I really can NOT see a Tactics game on a Wii.Unless they find some way to find it more "interactive" with the remote or something....but lets not get far ahead of ourselves here.

It could really be considered a bad Move on NIS' part..but its really too early to tell at this point.But as you said Groove,with mentioning Capcom,if they dont improve...this game could be their downfall.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 02:21 AM


Updating the graphics just seems weird to me. Have you ever seen a Tactical RPG with hi-res sprites? On top of that hi-res sprites mean bigger sprites, which feels unnecessary since you won't be getting close ups of your characters as they move across a large map. Odin Sphere wasn't a TRPG, the characters weren't chibi versions of themselves placed on a big chessboard, so of course they're as sharp as they are. I'm not sure Nippon Ichi had much choice, if there were any.

Don't like the new main character's look either, when seeing Adel in a screenshot for the first time I had a much better impression. From the looks of both screenshots, there will be new gameplay elements in both battle and off battle, which is pretty much expected. Maybe the game will take advantage of the PS3's hardware in some way, a lot of sprites and characters on the battle map at once with no slowdown, able to deploy more than the 10 player max, I think it was 10.

Besides we witnessed that NIS can make a sequel and make it work, so there's nothing stopping us from thinking Disgaea 3 will be as much fun as it's predecessors. If I ever get a PS3, I'll buy it.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 02:23 AM


I agree with Etna. Wii is mented to be motion console which rely on realtime RPG:s like Zelda and Party games. Nintendo use DS to their SRPG-console and realy i dont see disgaea kinda game working on Wii, because those menus are pretty tricky to handel with Wii remote and i can't image to play SRPG-with that kind of controler.

Anyways they definetly have run out of ideas. I mean c'mon we have seened this already and in Disgaea 2 i doesen't mather, because system was pretty improved and well Soul Cradle was like a phantom brave "they want to do something serius" but this screenshots, dont show me any improvement of graphics or idea.

Realy if thats white haired guy is a overlord.............




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 02:24 AM


You do have a point there Revel,about upgrading the graphics for a Tactics game.

But still..it really shouldnt be an excuse to hold back,make use of the PS3's hardware is what some of us are saying.I mean yeah...it is a bit much,because improving on the graphics may become good or worse.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 03:02 AM


i really couldnt give a shit about the graphics. rather than shoot the game down based on 2 fucking screenshots and jump on the 'OMG these graphics suck' bandwagon. i'll reserve my judgement til i see gameplay.

also i have every faith NIS will create another top protagonist, even if he looks a pillock xD




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 03:22 AM


2D graphics nowadays get so much flak from new aged gamers. I perfer 2D over flashy graphics nowadays.

NIS relies sill on 2D elements as well for Sammy.




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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 03:23 AM


Graphics wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't made on a system that's basically the epitome of next-gen. It would have been okay on PS2 or PSP, but if they don't try new things it kind of seems... disappointing?

All I'm going to ask is for them to make good use of Blu-Ray and use up that space. I'm not a fan of rehashing, I'm really not! I don't want to feel like something was rushed, I want to know they took the time to make this a great game. I hope they can utilize the new functions, space, and uses of the system. Otherwise I think it's a complete waste to make it on there. If they're going to keep the same low res graphics (IGNORE SPRITES, look at the 3D backgrounds, come on!) then they should compensate in OTHER AREAS. Larger maps, things that give fan appeal, lots of endings, lots of scenes, maybe even anime cut scenes! Make the game feel "polished" one way or the other. There's no reason to rush something that you want to be great.

Then again, I don't think the PS2 is dead. It could be for developers, though.

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[*] posted on 18-7-2007 at 03:26 AM


The PS2 is still very much alive. The only ones who think it's dead and people who jump the next gen bandwagon.

This is a large jump for NIS. I don't know what it will do for their future. I showed this to other people are most of their reactions were.

"Not going to buy a PS3."

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