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[*] posted on 15-9-2011 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote


Lol,nice.

Yeah,thats the thing with some of the titles I want to try out,importing is not a problem,its just Id really like to understand the whole story and get whats being said.




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No Xillia demo was annoying, Star Driver DLC looks pretty swish though XD

Had to make do with Graces F demo, which was pretty fun, shall import when the US one bothers turning up




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[*] posted on 15-9-2011 at 11:03 PM Reply With Quote


Yeah,the Star Driver DLC is...something else. I cant take that series seriously though,lol. It's just,really? All the bad guys live in the Same place as the good guys,and all they gotta do is put on a mask to become someone entirely different xD Thats just One of the reasons why I stopped watching after 5 episodes.



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Lol didnt make it that far XD



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did not play Xillia demo, because i kinda wanted to suprise myself when my Japanese copy arrives.

.. My japanese netfriend said thought that Xillia has realy dark story compared to other Tales games wich was pretty much reason for me to import it.lol




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Lol,dark stories are awesome xD



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Playing for Tales of Xillia about 8 hours already and here is my first impressions:

Characters:
You choose who characters you play as your main hero from Jude or Milla "i picked Jude, because i wanted his story first". Game don't show you any opening before you play with your main hero end of epilogue and then it picks wich intro movie it will show until you start a new game as other character and etc. Jude is kinda light hearted main hero, that saws the dark side of the reality. He can be kinda a wuss mc with his girly voice, but he is still a likable character. Milla is summon Maxwell reincarnated to human form. She is pretty adult like brave girl and i realy like her voice and characterist. Alvin the Merchanery is 3rd character of the group and he is totaly my fav so far. He is like lecherous cool version of Ragna the bloodedge and he fights with big sword and handgun. So far that are characters i have confronted.

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Its a same Tales as always... well not exacly, because there is system called LINK that gives you options to link your characters as a team and make a team combos and super team attacks called Chain links. Unlike in other tales you get skit faces talking in battle when your characters calls for support or says something important. You can make cool kinda combos, but like in Tales of Destiny remake you can only do up to 5 attacks and then you have to drop a combo. for the other things i don't realy have seen anything interesting to talk about, but you can ask me and i can try to answer if something wakes your interest.

Music:
Its Motoi Sakuraba again, but in other hand soundtrack is realy interesting mix up between kinda calm fantasy music and sometimes realy creepy horror music "yeah i thought i accidently changed to resident evil soundtrack when i listened some ToX music". Ofcourse battle music is gold again and you get different battle musics depending who you pick up as main hero.

Xillia don't have so stunning graphics as in Tales of Vesperia, but it is lot of more fun to play as. It has so much combos and links, so much stuff to do, Characters are better than in ToV "my opinion" And game actualy has a real replay value, because of two different main heroes. My fav chars so far are Milla, Alvin and Elise.

Would say if this keeps up this gonna be probably my new fav Tales game.lol




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I love your sig xD

I kind of had the feeling that was the case with Milla,when they said she was "Maxwell",and there's only one summoned character in the entire series with that name,I havent seen Maxwell since Tales of Phantasia. But it's interesting they went with that approach,of reincarnating a spirit.

It sounds pretty cool so far,there are a few characters that caught my interest when I saw the trailers and some gameplay before it was released.

I'm very curious to know about that one character,they they dont show enough,he's that one white haired and tan skin character,I assume they are male? But I might be wrong,I'm hoping its a male,but I can never tell with some of these characters xD Since they're kind of slim and the hair style that makes me unsure of their gender.




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i think you are talking about Ival if you mean that Haseo look a like? Anyways he is like Haseo and Axel from Disgaea would be fused to one character. He is worshipper of Milla and pretty damn hothead too. He is one character that makes those crazy kinda expressions and Axel kinda poses. He think he is realy famous, but Milla seems to prefer Jude as her quardian so he get stomped "poor Ival"....

I just got to know Elise moar and well she little girl that is mage and uses a puppet called Peta " sounds familiar?". Anyways she is actualy likable character. She is quiet, shy and friendly "yeah totaly opposite of Anise".

lol yeah i realy loved that pic so i made sig out of it lol. That pic shows how different characters Jude and Elise are compared to Luke and Anise XD




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did not play Xillia demo, because i kinda wanted to suprise myself when my Japanese copy arrives.


there was a demo??




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Lol,they do sound like total opposites.

Ah okay,yeah that sounds like him. I remember reading he was a guardian/protector for Milla or something,poor guy xD
I'm really hoping a US release happens,if not....I'm looking up a script,lol >>; My hope for BandaiNamco is gone since they failed to bring ToV here,even though IT WAS PUT ON THE PS3 FOR JAPAN ONLY.




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i thought Namdai let a bunch of brain damaged chimps sort out their US releases, it certainly explains a lot



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Yeah,they mentioned some article a while back that they....and this is not set in stone mind you,that they were gonna try and bring over games like Tales of,and some other junk. They're trying to step up a little and stop doing the whole,"but its not gonna sell that well in the US" bull crap.

Basically,if people show more support and buy Tales of games,like Graces F for example,then they'll think about bringing whatever new Tales games out,but if it doesnt,then yeah..we're back to square one. But as I said,its not a solid promise.




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I probably have to defend a bit of Namdai on this case. I have some friends now working on publishing and i am media guy myself. I can say to you that this "localization" is not realy so easy job. I give you some good reasons.

1. Its usually cost more than it pays
Tales games are probably Namcos most costing games to make. They need full attention to over 60 hour game to be translated and westernized. Unlike in japan where voice actors do their work with cheap price USA voice actors are total money hoggs.

There is some times when Namco Tales-release had make more loss than gain. Usually they use same voice actors than in any high selling JRPG, but Final fantasys sells millions and Tales only Thousands or in bad case hundreds. but if you have cheap voice actors you are sure to torpedo your sales.

2.But fans want orginal experience

Even thought you release game you still get complaining about things that you have removed, because they are not fitting to western release or they are impossible to make possible. This is one of the biggest complains that "why there is not japanese opening theme?" " Why we don't get anime costumes?" "why it don't have dual audio". All these things are not always easy to deliver like japanese opening theme wich Tales team always uses realy high class idol and western Namdai don't have money to pay those licenses. Same goess for Anime costumes that are easy to optain in japan when all the japanese are friends with each other, but in here you have to pay for those companys that have licensed that anime and i mean a lot. Dual audio is usually, because its too much of a work and impossible to code in deadline.

These things thought are one reason why Namco affraids to localize some Tales games, because things like this are what makes people buy games more and its like Namco would offer a decend car when other devs offer you a limo.

3.Xenophobia

After Namco USA failing so much with sales of tales games and they have saw that they can't deliver gain with it as in japan they have started to affraid western markets. Think about this you release game in japan and it sells a lot and then you go all the way doing that hard and pricey localization job and then your game sells a less than half what it sold in japan...

Would you trust foreigner markets anymore? because i would not..


I hope this glarifys a bit that this is not so easy job to do and make you give a credit that Namdai is still trying to make these happend and guys like me who import every Tales game always helps to Namco get their courage and release another game here in westerns : 3




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I've pretty much known all about that for years really,lol.

I know fully well its not an easy task. One game that does come to mind is God(s) Eater Burst,even though NamcoBandia is part of it,it was brought over by D3 publishing,but once again,just like the Tales series,GEB got screwed over BIG time with DLCs.

Basically,GEB is only getting one DLC,and its the pre-order one. They never fully explain Why they arent doing it,its more than likely out of their hands,but also as you mentioned,due to content in the DLC[like some of them are costumes for like Famitsu and from an anime,and thats understandable.] And I understand,that if sales are failing elsewhere,I can understand a company wouldnt want to keep trying it after so many failed attempts,but that doesnt mean you should give up.

Look at NIS. Look at Atlus. This is why it bothers me with NamcoBandai,they are Not the next SE,atleast to video game consumers over here,and I'm aware of that. But look at the sales with Catherine,the company themselves Were Happy they sold a lot of copies. Also if you notice,NIS,Atlus,and NamcoBandai dont even attempt at advertisting. Before anyone jumps on this,I'm referring to TV commericals. When FF13 came out,wasnt their a commercial for it? What about Dissidia?[Atleast I think there was one for it] And so on. The sad thing is,Atlus and NIS dont even Try that approach,but they still do very well.

So as I stated before,Im fully aware of the ups and downs of bringing over titles from Japan to here,but its really no excuse when other companies are doing pretty well,if not better than what SE is doing. And SE is the one who Should be struggling,after their previous game releases[LOL at FF14].




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Well when you compare Bamco to Nis and Atlus there is kinda difference there. Bouth these companies are totaly focused bringin these kinda games to over the border, but for Bamco Tales is not major seller like Tekken or their arcade machines are. Bamco USA/EU is probably all about profit, because i have tried to campaing for Tales-stuff, but in every letter and mail or even fan-arts they have always answered with typical corporate answer like "We thank you for supporting our products".

When i started my japanese lessons i was kinda taking break from Tales because there was no localizations, but then i realized "hey i have studied now japanese sometime.. Now i can actualy just import these games!". So basicly i kinda lost my interest for English releases, because it was battle you fight for nothing.

But yeah in the end Namco is not stupid they just know they wont get enought profit from them like they get from Tekkens and Arcade machines, so they don't realy categorize Tales as one of their main franchises outside of japan "because in japan it sells too much".

Well they where now generous to localize Tales of The Abyss 3DS "i have it already and not gonna buy 3DS for that" and Tales of Graces F wich i was kinda pissed off, because Tales of Graces F is probably worst Tales game next to Tales of Symphonia 2. I mean they could have give PS3 players Vesperia "a good game", but they gone with Graces, because it sold so much in pre-orders even it was realy bad.

I think Xillia as actual apolige from them to me that how bad Graces F was... Because i realy love Xillia : D




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Yeah,pretty much. They sure dont have a problem with selling Naruto games over here,because as you mentioned before,it sells really well over here.

I mean,I still want to keep positive for future releases for Tales. Its good to see that ToV got released in English either way,so its sort of like putting your foot in the door,from NamcoBandai's point of view. But y'know,little things like that,is only minor,they need to step it up. It is kind of sad,that no matter how hard fans try to show support,as you mentioned before,its never a winning situtation on the player's end.




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Pretty sure Vesperia sold a lot of copies in the west on 360.........



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Yeah,I thought it sold pretty well too. But I guess NamcoBandai still wasnt satisfied?



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So it would seem, was looking forward to 100%ing it. Again.



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Daily Xillia Update:

Im talking more about system now. Link moves are made by doing particular move and hitting R2 when the link gauge is shining. All attacks can't be turn to link moves so you have to be smart figuring out wich combinations are best for your team. For examble i use now Alvin, Milla, Rowen and Elise. My Alvin and Elise can do link attack with Alvins tiger tooth kinda move and Elises Pow Pow hammer links to move where Elise turns her Pow Pow hammer to big and Alvin inser it to his sword and start to smash enemies rapidly.

Other new thing was with getting 5th party member game indructed me way to change your character team in the middle of battle pressing R3 and choosing with Digital wich characters you choose to change.

For the new party member i got Rowen. He is 62 years old butler of rich household. He fights with little stinger sword that he uses like a melody stick. He is kinda combat mage type like Milla. Rowen is realy friendly old man and i found him realy fun to keep on my team.

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Lol,interesting. Amd the screenshot too xD



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[*] posted on 21-11-2011 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote


http://kotaku.com/5861361/was-this-inevitable-the-tales-studio-is-dead

What a shame.




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[*] posted on 9-12-2011 at 10:49 PM Reply With Quote


http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/09/tales-of-graces-f-is-coming-to-north-america-on-march-13/

Still waiting for Tales of Xillia kthxbai.




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[*] posted on 10-12-2011 at 01:43 AM Reply With Quote


Tales of Graces F was mediocre as best.. There was some realy annoying things that you dont learn some moves from other than some tittles that you have to get from events and if you miss them you will not learn them. Generaly that system that "you have to grind tittles to learn new moves" did not work so well.

Characters where realy lifeless and i remember only liking Pascal because she was funny "she is total comic relief character"..

Dunno i don't see it so appealing as Xillia : D




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